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So do I, If your right handed and right eye dominant everything will work as it should, vice versa for left hand. The problems start when your dominant eye is different to your dominant hand. Using sights hides the problem, shooting both eyes open exposes it. Trap and skeet shooters that have this problem where shooting glasses that make the dominant eye blurry, forcing the non-dominant eye to work.littlejohn59 wrote:I shoot both eyes open with trad. So the dominant eye approach shouldn't matter unless you shoot a wheelie or use sights.
I reckon it pretty much sums it up for the vast majority.Fraser wrote:So do I, If your right handed and right eye dominant everything will work as it should, vice versa for left hand. The problems start when your dominant eye is different to your dominant hand. Using sights hides the problem, shooting both eyes open exposes it. Trap and skeet shooters that have this problem where shooting glasses that make the dominant eye blurry, forcing the non-dominant eye to work.
Fortunately most people have the dominant hand and eye on the same side of the body, or the difference between thier eyes is small enough to make little difference.
Fraser
Interesting!Fraser wrote:Hi Rod, my problem is similar to yours, despite being righ handed I can't shoot a right handed bow with any accuracy. I can shoot a rifle right handed because my left eye is shut, I can only shoot a shotgun with my left eye shut, if I shoot with both eyes open my shots will constantly go to the right of where I think I'm aiming.
Fraser
I understand what you meanFraser wrote:Hi Graydon, I can shoot a bow right handed as long as I close my left eye, but that only really works on the range and at closer rangers. My eldest son has the same problem I do, middle son is purely right handed, and the youngest son is either ambidextrous or left handed.
The only positive is that it seems to be difficult for me to over bow myself.
Fraser
I would be far more interested in your own personal experience with base ball and how it relates to this subject as you tell me you have good experience.GrahameA wrote:Coming from another viewpoint - if I was working with a young Baseball player today I would just teach them to be able to bat left and right handed, ie become ambidextrous.
(And why Baseball? Well I know a little about it and there has been a fair bit written on the subject.}
Well said!hazard wrote:Grahame
Anyone can map out put up charts quote all the documentation you like but nothing compares to hands on experience![]()
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This forum IMO is entirely about opinions, Cold hard personal experience by far out weighs any thing written....by someone else, I reckon Fraser and Kerille's personal experience merit especially because it is first hand experience. On ya Lads!
Hazard
Certainly.hazard wrote:I would be far more interested in your own personal experience with base ball and how it relates to this subject as you tell me you have good experience.
Hi Grayson, I tried your technique with Cain's right handed recurve (I fell dirty, there's something unnatural about a recurve, thier to short and have funny bends in the limbs) it works if I briefly shut my left eye and line every thing up with my right eye, then reopen the left and then release.hazard wrote:Interesting!Fraser wrote:Hi Rod, my problem is similar to yours, despite being righ handed I can't shoot a right handed bow with any accuracy. I can shoot a rifle right handed because my left eye is shut, I can only shoot a shotgun with my left eye shut, if I shoot with both eyes open my shots will constantly go to the right of where I think I'm aiming.
Fraser
My oldest Son Writes R/H and kicks R/Foot but most other things is L/H Archery in particular. He really struggles to shoot a bow R/H but me being an out and out leftie can switch without too much trouble. Longbowinfected seems to have the same ability as well. Another mate I shoot with is r/handed and can switch quite readily but has a couple of settling in shots like I do.
I think L/ Hander's have been forced to adapt to everything their entire life maybe through doing this we have been conditioned to switch hands more than others.
If you get a r/h 20-30#bow and come to full draw for a minute with no intention of letting go. You will find your self re-adjusting your bow arm to get better line, but you may have to squint your left eye just the slightest bit. Somehow doing this I found myself able to choose which eye dominates the shot. All the so called experts can scream till dooms day but it worked for me. Practice will probably get most people there but others might just not be wired that way.![]()
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I must admit I did it for a whole day ( well over 120-150 shots) and at the end of the day my right shoulder ached like a ba$tard but i was using a 40# bow at the time.Fraser wrote:Hi Graydon, I tried your technique with Cain's right handed recurve (I fell dirty, there's something unnatural about a recurve, thier to short and have funny bends in the limbs) it works if I briefly shut my left eye and line every thing up with my right eye, then reopen the left and then release.
I think I'll stay left handed.
That's better Grahame we'll get you there soon enoughGrahameA wrote:Certainly.
As an example, a "Batter" who is right eye dominant and who bats right handed has their dominant eye positioned such that the dominant eye looks across the bridge of the nose at the incoming target - and the view is partially obscured. Archers have a similar situation in which the dominant eye may be parialy obscured by the bridge of the nose.
Should have used a "Daisy BB" gunhazard wrote:... I got the idea when a friend told e the army got 5 blokes with .22 pump actions to spend 3 days throwing washers in the air and shooting them. Apparently they were hitting them quite confidently before the end of the first day. I really don't know if it is true but the theory is sound. ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_shooting... The quick kill method was outlined in Principles of Quick Kill, and was taught starting with a special Daisy BB gun that had no sights. The slow moving steel BB was visible in flight on sunny days, making it an inexpensive tracer round. The students began by firing at 3.5 inches (8.9 cm) diameter metal disks thrown in the air slightly in front of the student and 2 metres (6.6 ft) to 4 metres (13 ft) above the student's head. After an 80% hit rate is attained firing at these disks, the student is then presented with 2.5 inches (6.4 cm) diameter disks. Once proficiency is attained with the aerial targets, it shows the student has mastered the fundamentals, and training moves on to stationary targets on the ground, first with the BB gun and then with a service rifle having its front and rear sights taped over.
The Daisy company commercially sold sightless BB guns and target throwers for a number of years under the name Quick Skill, along with an instruction book that was a demilitarized version of the aerial target portion of the "quick kill" course.
GrahameA wrote:Should have used a "Daisy BB" gunhazard wrote:... I got the idea when a friend told e the army got 5 blokes with .22 pump actions to spend 3 days throwing washers in the air and shooting them. Apparently they were hitting them quite confidently before the end of the first day. I really don't know if it is true but the theory is sound. ....
It was popluar in the early 1960's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_shooting... The quick kill method was outlined in Principles of Quick Kill, and was taught starting with a special Daisy BB gun that had no sights. The slow moving steel BB was visible in flight on sunny days, making it an inexpensive tracer round. The students began by firing at 3.5 inches (8.9 cm) diameter metal disks thrown in the air slightly in front of the student and 2 metres (6.6 ft) to 4 metres (13 ft) above the student's head. After an 80% hit rate is attained firing at these disks, the student is then presented with 2.5 inches (6.4 cm) diameter disks. Once proficiency is attained with the aerial targets, it shows the student has mastered the fundamentals, and training moves on to stationary targets on the ground, first with the BB gun and then with a service rifle having its front and rear sights taped over.
The Daisy company commercially sold sightless BB guns and target throwers for a number of years under the name Quick Skill, along with an instruction book that was a demilitarized version of the aerial target portion of the "quick kill" course.
Fraser wrote:Starting to get a bit of topic, but practicing shooting with an air rifle helps your shooting technique. With an air rifle the slug is in the barrel much longer than with a normal rifle, as a result any poor form in regards to follow through is amplified.
Now can we apply that to archery?
Fraser.