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Re: Cash or Prizes to promote Trad events

#31 Post by longbowinfected » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:27 pm

Nah I am happy, just one thing about our US cousins that irks the crap out of me.....World Series events where one country turns up...no one else is invited [cos they might get beaten?????]

I recollect they were talking about 100 at the "World' event. More attend an AA nationals, far more attend local trad long weekend shoots at HVTA and others I would guess.

Regina Bohler went to the world archery festival with Bede Dwyer a while back where people from a large numberof countries with long histories of archery from all round the world attend wearing traditional clothing and shooting with their local traditional bows and arrows. I think there were hundreds of archers. A true celebration/ World Event.

Australia ia about the only country without a national bow or a national outfit unless you talk about camo flannies, low cleavage stubbies, uggly boots or RM boots and pants [if you are a bit posh] and the absolutely iconic Wet as a dog oilskin hat, vest or coat [or generic].

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#32 Post by SouthTexasPighunter » Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:58 pm

Ya the money bit really puts a black eye on the overall aspect of shooting Trad and bows in general. I used to shoot wheel bows for a short bit but really got disgusted at how many shooters had sponsers and were so called "Professionals". Even now I have pretty much stopped watching most of the hunting shows put out over here because it seems that everyone who has a sponser, a pretty face, or ties to media whether it be music, TV or movies somehow is deemed a proffesional hunter. There are many outstanding shooters who dont have money, fame, fortune, or sponsers who "Give" them all of their equipment. I and my family cater to hunters and those who wish to enjoy the outdoors from all over the world and the key to keeping everyone happy is beingsimple and down home friendly and curteous(sp). We have had people call and say I am so and so and we are looking for a fully catered hunt of this type that we plan on videoing for television we will have this many shooters this many support staff and we want this caliber of animal BUT we dont want to pay for it. They expect for the trade off of just the name of the place that the hunt occuring on to be payment enough for sometimes thousands of dollars of food individual time and then animals. Then they become upset when we tell them that the outfitters we work with have to make a living. Of course evryone wants/needs to make money but what I'm speaking of is a plain and simple "give me" complex where one entity takes and then says you should be happy we are even speaking to you mentality. Think about it how many times have you ever seen a hunting show where the people high lighted are folks who can basically go on that type of hunt anytime they want. Celebrities and others who are high profile, including politicians. All this when the common men and women are the ones who keep the industry going and alive. As I have said my family and I have a small business where we locate hunting and fishing opportunities in the State of Texas for folks. We are tiny compared to others and yet how many of the big companies do you see trying to do for local communities and people? Very seldom do see this its the small groups and locals who make the effort and raise funds for the ones there who need help like after major traumatic events and catastrophies. You dont see those folks who have to be paid to show up to a shoot or function actually giving UNLESS it benefits them and the way they are seen through the media. Here in the states you see it alot as well as other parts of the world. Now dont get me wrongI fought suffered andbled for my country while I was in the Marines and I'd do it again. But commercialism has taken over. I know alot of folks dont like the US because of this but not everyone is like this. LongBowInfected I feel as you may feel like I am speaking for the center of the universe as you call it but really it is just my point of view from what I have seen and experienced. I have personally taken friends from Spain Italy and Japanto the shoot I have mentioned and they all had a good time. As I said I'm not attempting to step on anyones toesor be disrespectful and if you took it as that I apologize but please dont pass judgement on me because others have done you wrong. I am a simple man who believes in his family and as yall say it "Mates". I can understand the bad taste it may have given you on us because everywhere in the world I have seen and felt the same thing you wrote earlier in this post. I cannot apologize for everyone else only for myself. I was raised to respect others my elders and those whom I do not know. Treat as you expect to be treated. Simple rules to a simple man from a simple life. Hey I just like shooting stickbows with friends lifting a Fosters, Guiness or single malt eating (alot) of BarBQd pork and hearing the thunk of an arrow. If you want to visit call me I'll take you pighunting down here or bowfishing for Alligator Gar. No strings attached no videos just a good time. The offer and hand are outstretched all ya gotta do is takem.
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#33 Post by Bent Stick » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:02 pm

STP sounds like your living your passion mate, glad to hear it and i reckon your spot on when it comes to the media give it to me free so i can forward it on for millions and you should be grateful. Don't think that much is different here in most aspects mate just a lot of geography and smaller population.

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#34 Post by longbowinfected » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:48 pm

STP, no harm no foul from / in any of your words / actions. I perceive no ill intent or disrespect. In fact you expressed yourself clearly and I would agree in the main.
My concern was about a certain event, not about you or yours.

No matter where we stand it is the centre of the universe for each of us. I have a lot of Nth American and Sth American friends [and have travelled there as well as the Pacific, Asia, India and Europe].....They are all stand up guys....great hosts in their country.

The only thing about the US that irks me is in my opinion that those who have not travelled in the US do not have a world view in that they have little appreciation or education/understanding of the other guy's circumstances/point of view.

Then again Aussies like me are considered by many to be harsh, opinionated bastards even by their best mates.
As long as we are all throwing arrows and not at each other it is all good.

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#35 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:57 pm

SouthTexasPighunter wrote:I was raised to respect others my elders and those whom I do not know. Treat as you expect to be treated. Simple rules to a simple man from a simple life. Hey I just like shooting stickbows with friends lifting a Fosters, Guiness or single malt eating (alot) of BarBQd pork and hearing the thunk of an arrow.
A good upbringing no doubt mate and a great view on life - just make mine a Bundy Ginger Beer though. :lol:

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#36 Post by longbowinfected » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:09 pm

Love that Bundy GB. I developed a love for it when I was undergoing chemotreatment. Doctors recommend it.

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#37 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:12 pm

It's a good drop alright. :D Why did the doctors recommend it, does the ginger help settle the stomach?

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#38 Post by SouthTexasPighunter » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:45 pm

My people have used ginger for ages to help with nausea and stomach upset along with wild peppermint leaves and Mugwart leaves made into teas for the same reasons.
Longbow I agree that A lot of folks here in the states don't really Care or see the other persons point of view. Don't feel alone in that fact we small people Here feel it also. Unfortunately its all about who can yell louder and has the Capital to back it up. Not nessisarily the right way but unfortunately its what runs this place as sick as it may be. Its in all counties its just that the US is the country everyone loves to hate unanimously. But like other countries we do have many many good people and a single voice or opinion does not make us all bad. I have been all over the world and have found this to be the scenario everywhere. But all that said the fact that human emotions are a very powerful thing and we are all subject to them.
I am not an educated man nor am I an idiot. As I've said before I am of the Earth and am in tune with it. I try and see the good in people and also see the Bull**** that people exude and try and fool others with. Unfortunately there are a lot of Bull****ers in the world very few mean what they say unless it benefits them. Me what you see is what you get I don't have a lot of friends but the ones I do have are true. I am not trying to win you or anyone else over I am being what I was raised to be.... Just me nothing special or extravagant, a simple man.
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#39 Post by longbowinfected » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:55 am

Jeff
Yep the ginger beer and eating preserved ginger really settled things down and what was really good was that I did not have to take a lot more drugs at a time where my system was really overloaded with a lot of nasty meds. It just tipped the scales back by a micro fraction but made me feel more normal. It alowed me to do something myself. I also worked out with weights and walked a couple of kilometres a day. I built a lot of extra muscle. I gave up cola, drank much less soft drink and lost 15 kilos from that one little change. Win / win. I also ate a lot of almonds....I read somewhere that the people in Nepal did not get much cancer and that it was atributted to eating marzipan and lots of nuts in their diet. The ginger beer and pieces of ginger also helped my dad who died fighting brain tumours at the same time.

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