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not hunting, making a canoe

#1 Post by kerrille » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:15 pm

after a shoulder injury last year ,ive been a bit quiet on the bow front ,so a mate and i started to build this ,its a 17' clinker canoe we hope to travel down the murray next year in it.

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at over 200 photo's i thought this would be easyer

....nev...
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#2 Post by Nephew » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:17 pm

I'm not getting anything but the address on that page, Nev. :confused:
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#3 Post by kerrille » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:27 pm

try that mate, sorry bout that .

...nev...
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#4 Post by bigbob » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:36 pm

what an absolutely brilliant job.Congratulations. Something to be very proud of and destined to be a much used and looked after heritage item.
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#5 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:28 pm

That looks excellent so far Nev. It sure is a big job but I'm also sure it will be well worth it with many enjoyable hours paddling along in it. :biggrin:

What woods have you used in making it and the paddles?

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#6 Post by kerrille » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:38 pm

jeff ,because this is our first attempt at anything like this and the cost steave decided on using 3 ply on the canoe and we used oregon on the paddles. he's already talking about building another one out of marine ply ,but im hopeing thats not for a while yet :biggrin: we,ve still got a ways to go ,dont you hate it when weather and work ,mainly work keep getting in the road .

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#7 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:52 pm

Thanks Nev. I thought the paddles were Oregon and I thought maybe some pine around the top edge of the canoe? Are the ribs ply as well? A very interesting project indeed.

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#8 Post by WOLF » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:32 pm

I can hear the Banjo Playing Nev :lol: :lol: :lol:
Its a bloody great project Mate
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#9 Post by kerrille » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:39 pm

jeff ,steave is a chippy and has all sorts of wood in his shed ,i'll be seeing him on sat so i'll ask him all the names of the wood used ,steaves the brains and im the braun or as somebody said ,his comedy relief. :lol: :biggrin:

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#10 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:13 pm

kerrille wrote:steaves the brains and im the braun or as somebody said ,his comedy relief.
Ok thanks and understood! :lol:

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#11 Post by flyne » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:50 am

Wow that's a bute nev
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#12 Post by kerrille » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:29 pm

jeff i asked steve what the wood was he said hard wood ,i said yeah i know that but whats it called he goes oh you know tassie oak and stuff ,what ever i could find in the shed.since weve started this build steave has taught me a lot ,as in joining, steaming and using the hand tools i am finding crafting things by hand is not only rewarding ,but good for the soul .i used to think making arras buy hand was fun,this is way over the top .oh yeah the glue is western systems epoxy,steve thinks it would make a good bow glue.

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#13 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:41 pm

Thanks for the info Nev. I'm glad you are enjoying the whole building process as I'm sure you will also enjoy using the results of all your hard work. :biggrin:

The West Systems epoxy has been used in bow making but I haven't personally tried it.

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#14 Post by GrahameA » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:54 am

Hi Nev.

Now that is a great Project.

You need to:

a) Read all the back issues of "Wooden Boat" you can find.

b) Try Lapstrake construction and ply. It is faster.

c) Get a copy of "River Murray Charts" - http://www.rivermurraycharts.com.au/charts.html

d) Start planning the longer trip. This may mean another boat.

e) WEST Systems Epoxy is good. I do not know if it would be the product of choice for bows.

f) You need a "Whisp". http://www.sredmond.com/index_boat.htm

g) You will be off to see this mob soon - just a drive down the Highway. http://www.duckflatwoodenboats.com
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#15 Post by kerrille » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:48 pm

gday grahame ,we started talking about this project in april last year and we have done everything youve suggested and steave bought a book on making clinker boats aswell which has been used alot .Once the canoe has been built we'll do a few short trips on the river ,100k's or so ,next year we want to go from albury to mildura/merbein about 1400 k's we plan to take 6weeks + we'll be in no hurry ,we plan to live of the land as much as possible ,taking f/rods ,nets and our bows .

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#16 Post by KellyG » Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:24 am

That is just a great looking project. let us know when you add more PICs.

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#17 Post by GrahameA » Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:10 am

Hi Nev.
kerrille wrote:gday grahame ,we started talking about this project in april last year and we have done everything youve suggested and steave bought a book on making clinker boats aswell which has been used alot .Once the canoe has been built we'll do a few short trips on the river ,100k's or so ,next year we want to go from albury to mildura/merbein about 1400 k's we plan to take 6weeks + we'll be in no hurry ,we plan to live of the land as much as possible ,taking f/rods ,nets and our bows .
You need a River Murray Flag. You can probably get small one from a souvenir shop in your area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray_River_Flag). I fly one from my Scanoe occasionally and I noticed that "Enterprise" also flies one when operating on Burley-Griffin (plus lots of the boats operating out of the Port of Echuca fly them).

Take a small 4-stroke outboard (or a small 2-stroke if that is all you have) when you start doing your trips - paddling gets hard.

There are some great Bolger designs for craft that are simple to build and would offer you some on-board accommodation - it is a long way from Albury to Mildura/Merbein. The trip from Albury to Mildura is long - the Barmah is really something.
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#18 Post by kerrille » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:43 am

gday graheme i already have a flag and i fly it at trad shoots i go to.A lot of people do the trip but go through to the mouth ,we have a few mates who have done it in kyacks but they do it as fast as possible , normally 3 or 4 weeks to mildura ,where we want to take our time ,if we find a good hunting or fishin spot we'll stay for a couple of days ,the canoe is 17' long 3' wide 13'' in the middle and rakes to 2' at the ends so its got lots of room ,our 2 or 3 day trips will let us know what we have to take and how it paddles ,if the trip takes us longer than 6 weeks thats ok we dont care we'll get home when we get home ,with me at 56 and steave at 64 this will be our last great adventure before our last great adventure.

...nev...

....ps we want to think of ourselves as old canadian trappers so no motors maybe a couple of coon skin caps :lol: :wink:
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#19 Post by GrahameA » Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:45 pm

Hi Nev.
kerrille wrote:with me at 56 and steave at 64 this will be our last great adventure before our last great adventure.
There are plenty more Rivers to explore .... and then you start driving.

Canadian Trappers...... Have you ever seen the size of the Canoes those guys used!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Should you ever come across this book you should read it. http://www.amazon.ca/Nahanni-Dick-Turne ... 802&sr=1-3

As for Rivers, Canoes and the Canadian Forests - my ancestors did it all for me. But I would still like to visit.

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#20 Post by UPTHETOP » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:25 am

Hi Nev a piece of art mate, good luck on the trip it will be like stepping back in time with the first stroke of the paddle.

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