Buford
Damn glad y'all got your bow - can't wait to hear how it shoots.
L
Karangi Blind Archers "runnin for cover since 1978"
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gilnockie
I am going to beat buford to this - just spoke to him on his mobile - he's out shooting his new bow - what's the recommended brace height? And he draws about 26 1/2 " - the bow's 65lbs @ 28" = what draw weight would it be?
If I hear back from you soon I'll ring him back otherwise he'll be poking back in here and cussing me for beating him to the punch!
L
I am going to beat buford to this - just spoke to him on his mobile - he's out shooting his new bow - what's the recommended brace height? And he draws about 26 1/2 " - the bow's 65lbs @ 28" = what draw weight would it be?
If I hear back from you soon I'll ring him back otherwise he'll be poking back in here and cussing me for beating him to the punch!
L
"So long as the new moon returns in heaven a bent, beautiful bow, so long will the fascination of archery keep hold of the hearts of men."
Maurice Thompsen, 1878.
Maurice Thompsen, 1878.
cletus,
you are indeed a friend. (even though you would probably choose to deny it). or just very bored......
gilnockie,
reaffirming what lindsay has asked, what is the intended brace height for my bow? it's currently at around 8 - 8.5 inches. it might just be me but it seems a little high? there isn't alot of twist in the string so maybe it is suppost to be that way? appreciate it if you could let me know.
also, do you know what the rate of drop for the poundage is for your bows? it's 64lbs at 28in, just trying to get a rough estimate on draw weight at 26.5inches?
cheers
buford
you are indeed a friend. (even though you would probably choose to deny it). or just very bored......
gilnockie,
reaffirming what lindsay has asked, what is the intended brace height for my bow? it's currently at around 8 - 8.5 inches. it might just be me but it seems a little high? there isn't alot of twist in the string so maybe it is suppost to be that way? appreciate it if you could let me know.
also, do you know what the rate of drop for the poundage is for your bows? it's 64lbs at 28in, just trying to get a rough estimate on draw weight at 26.5inches?
cheers
buford
Stupid TV! Be more funny!
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Guest
Just looking back through the comments here and read your comment "The original purpose of using so many veneers was to avoid the cost setting up a drum sander to grind tapered timber laminates." gilnockie.
My original lamination grinder cost about $10 over and above the gear I already had. I used it for my first 50 - 60 recurves and gained accuracy to + or - 0.001" - 0.002" with it.
I had seen (and drooled over) Jeff’s
but could not afford to get something like that made, so once again necessity was the mother of invention and my first set up evolved.
I now have a top set up thanks to a mate with a lathe and a welder and skill with them.
Early in the piece I micrometered the pre ground laminations bought here in Aussie and from the states and found the tolerances unacceptable (understatement!).
and began ordering them oversized and re-grinding myself.
My point I guess is don't let grinding your own lams be a barrier, it can be set up relatively simply. The ability also comes in handy for grinding overlays, feature strip timber etc.
Anyone struggling with the lam grinding issue at the moment, sing out and I will try and describe and/or scratch up some visuals.
Mark K.
My original lamination grinder cost about $10 over and above the gear I already had. I used it for my first 50 - 60 recurves and gained accuracy to + or - 0.001" - 0.002" with it.
I had seen (and drooled over) Jeff’s
but could not afford to get something like that made, so once again necessity was the mother of invention and my first set up evolved.I now have a top set up thanks to a mate with a lathe and a welder and skill with them.
Early in the piece I micrometered the pre ground laminations bought here in Aussie and from the states and found the tolerances unacceptable (understatement!).
and began ordering them oversized and re-grinding myself.My point I guess is don't let grinding your own lams be a barrier, it can be set up relatively simply. The ability also comes in handy for grinding overlays, feature strip timber etc.
Anyone struggling with the lam grinding issue at the moment, sing out and I will try and describe and/or scratch up some visuals.
Mark K.
Buford
The brace height should not be that high. Send me your address via email and I will make up a new string of 67" and send it to you Express Post on Monday. Measure the existing string include its length in the email. Don't return the string, keep it as a spare or use it to tie up your tomatoes.
I tend to favour a low brace height with my longbows, about 6 " to 7" from the back of the bow, although some people like at least 8" . Photos of Howard hill shows his bows braced with a shallow curve when the bow is braced but undrawn. In theory a low brace height should give a longer power stroke and displace more energy into the arrow, reducing hand shock. That bow should not have that string for you, partiularly with your draw length.
I do not make up a force draw curve for my bows. A best estimate is that the bow should draw about 59# at 26". If the force draw curve is a straight line it will daw about 2.3# per inch, but the f/d curve will not be a straight line. If it stacks, the draw weight will be about 56# to 58# at 26".
I shot it to test it and while it was too heavy for me to shoot comfortably all afternoon, i was not conscious of it stacking.
If your club has a bow gauge, use it to determine the draw weight at your draw length. In the final analysis the bow will be comfortable for you to shoot or it will not. If it is not comfortable for you to shoot, it is not satisfactory for you.
Read the accompanying notes carefully. If the bow is unsatisfactory, you can return it within 30 days and obtain a refund, provided the bow is not damaged, modified or otherwise marked.
The brace height should not be that high. Send me your address via email and I will make up a new string of 67" and send it to you Express Post on Monday. Measure the existing string include its length in the email. Don't return the string, keep it as a spare or use it to tie up your tomatoes.
I tend to favour a low brace height with my longbows, about 6 " to 7" from the back of the bow, although some people like at least 8" . Photos of Howard hill shows his bows braced with a shallow curve when the bow is braced but undrawn. In theory a low brace height should give a longer power stroke and displace more energy into the arrow, reducing hand shock. That bow should not have that string for you, partiularly with your draw length.
I do not make up a force draw curve for my bows. A best estimate is that the bow should draw about 59# at 26". If the force draw curve is a straight line it will daw about 2.3# per inch, but the f/d curve will not be a straight line. If it stacks, the draw weight will be about 56# to 58# at 26".
I shot it to test it and while it was too heavy for me to shoot comfortably all afternoon, i was not conscious of it stacking.
If your club has a bow gauge, use it to determine the draw weight at your draw length. In the final analysis the bow will be comfortable for you to shoot or it will not. If it is not comfortable for you to shoot, it is not satisfactory for you.
Read the accompanying notes carefully. If the bow is unsatisfactory, you can return it within 30 days and obtain a refund, provided the bow is not damaged, modified or otherwise marked.
Norman
Draw, anchor, loose.
Draw, anchor, loose.
gilnockie,
have actually got around to shootin' my bow now that the madness of school holidays has ended.
the heavier spined arra's are workin a treat. the bow is nice and stable and i have even managed to make it shock free (not that there was much anyway) and very quiet via some custom vibration dampeners.*
thanks again
Buford
*"vibration dampeners" thick rubber bands around the limb tips!
have actually got around to shootin' my bow now that the madness of school holidays has ended.
the heavier spined arra's are workin a treat. the bow is nice and stable and i have even managed to make it shock free (not that there was much anyway) and very quiet via some custom vibration dampeners.*
thanks again
Buford
*"vibration dampeners" thick rubber bands around the limb tips!
Stupid TV! Be more funny!
Stagmitis
Yes I glue up each veneer.
The veneers are minor species timbers grown in Tasmania, the island at the bottom of our continent.
They are 0.6mm thick or about 23 thou of an inch. The veneers are sliced off logs; they are not peeled as with plywood veneer. This slicing provides interesting grain patterns, most of which is lost in my bows because all you see are the edges, except for the layer of veeneer over the glass on the back and the belly.
Yes I glue up each veneer.
The veneers are minor species timbers grown in Tasmania, the island at the bottom of our continent.
They are 0.6mm thick or about 23 thou of an inch. The veneers are sliced off logs; they are not peeled as with plywood veneer. This slicing provides interesting grain patterns, most of which is lost in my bows because all you see are the edges, except for the layer of veeneer over the glass on the back and the belly.
Norman
Draw, anchor, loose.
Draw, anchor, loose.
)Buford
don't be so modest it was a wonderous victory - considering you shot with me on the second day I was surprised you finished at all.
Cletus
don't be so modest it was a wonderous victory - considering you shot with me on the second day I was surprised you finished at all.
Cletus
"So long as the new moon returns in heaven a bent, beautiful bow, so long will the fascination of archery keep hold of the hearts of men."
Maurice Thompsen, 1878.
Maurice Thompsen, 1878.