BAMBOO and HICKORY.

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BAMBOO and HICKORY.

#1 Post by greybeard » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:18 pm

I had an off cut of hickory that was not suitable for a selfbow so I decided to back it with bamboo to see how it would hold up.

To add to my woes the pole bamboo had developed a split and once removed left me with a shorter pole and awkward node placement.

Off cuts of Osage and black wattle from the scrap bin completed my materials list.

You may notice that the fadeouts are not symmetrical as I had to compensate for the stiff spot created by the node placement.
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Unfortunately the weak spots in the hickory occurred in relatively crucial spots, one at the start of the recurve where the grain swings up to the back of the bow and the other on the fadeout.

Reducing the draw weight to 40# should increase the safety margin given by the bamboo.
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#2 Post by rodlonq » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:24 pm

Very nice Daryl.

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#3 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:25 pm

Looks good Daryl. Thanks for posting the photos up.

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#4 Post by Gringa Bows » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:24 pm

Looks really good Daryl :biggrin:

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#5 Post by longbowinfected » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:14 pm

Boo and Hickory my two favourite fruits and at a great draw mass for a bit of fun......great stuff mate.

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#6 Post by morganp » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:20 am

looks good, thanks

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#7 Post by greybeard » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:55 pm

Gentlemen, thank you for your comments.

The photo of the bow at draw was taken by GrahameA.

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#8 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:57 pm

It looks to be bending very nicely Daryl.

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#9 Post by hazard » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:10 pm

greybeard wrote:I had an off cut of hickory that was not suitable for a selfbow so I decided to back it with bamboo to see how it would hold up.

To add to my woes the pole bamboo had developed a split and once removed left me with a shorter pole and awkward node placement.

Off cuts of Osage and black wattle from the scrap bin completed my materials list.

You may notice that the fadeouts are not symmetrical as I had to compensate for the stiff spot created by the node placement.
Bow Compilation.jpg
Unfortunately the weak spots in the hickory occurred in relatively crucial spots, one at the start of the recurve where the grain swings up to the back of the bow and the other on the fadeout.

Reducing the draw weight to 40# should increase the safety margin given by the bamboo.
Grain Near Tip And Fadeout.jpg
Osage Tip Overlay Set.jpg
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This looks like a very nice little bow. and it has a nice shape at full draw as well.

I am curious though, it looks like the bamboo backing doesn't go under the knock tips or am I miss interpreting something?
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#10 Post by greybeard » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:35 am

hazard wrote:I am curious though, it looks like the bamboo backing doesn't go under the knock tips or am I miss interpreting something?
Hi Graydon, The attached photo should explain all. In the initial glue up the bamboo runs the full length of the stave.

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#11 Post by rodlonq » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:52 pm

Great picture, thanks Daryl.

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#12 Post by temudjin » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:09 pm

Hey Greybeard,

that is a very sweet looking bow! I love the curves and she looks great at full draw.

Hope to see you shooting it soon.... as long as you don't shoot too well!! :lol:

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#13 Post by Dennis La Varenne » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:45 pm

Daryl,

That certainly is a very fine bow. I think perhaps you could be rightly judged the best bowyer we have on Ozbow. Certainly, you are one of the most adventurous in your willingness and ability to have a go at the more difficult stuff.

Very well done, indeed.
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#14 Post by GrahameA » Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:15 am

Morning All.
Dennis La Varenne wrote:That certainly is a very fine bow. I think perhaps you could be rightly judged the best bowyer we have on Ozbow. Certainly, you are one of the most adventurous in your willingness and ability to have a go at the more difficult stuff.

Very well done, indeed.
I second that. He is very, very good plus he thinks his ideas through before putting saw to timber. :mrgreen:
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#15 Post by greybeard » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:43 am

GrahameA wrote:Morning All.
Dennis La Varenne wrote:That certainly is a very fine bow. I think perhaps you could be rightly judged the best bowyer we have on Ozbow. Certainly, you are one of the most adventurous in your willingness and ability to have a go at the more difficult stuff.

Very well done, indeed.
I second that. He is very, very good plus he thinks his ideas through before putting saw to timber. :mrgreen:
Gentlemen, thank you for you kind appraisal, I am lost for words at the moment.

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#16 Post by Bill » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:33 pm

:smile: A very sweet looking Bow, well done.
I just wish you had put it up as a build along. :mrgreen: :sad:
But can't complain just seeing it is so.. 8) thanks.

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#17 Post by greybeard » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:55 pm

Bill wrote:I just wish you had put it up as a build along....
Bill, I did not do a build a long with this bow as the construction method involved is similar to bows in my previous posts.

The following are links to the various bows.

http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3792 Spotted gum and bamboo

http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.p ... 4&start=20 Static Tip Bows

http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5341 Italian Renaissance Bow

http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=14522 Bamboo and Rock Maple Recurve Tips

http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=13037 Bamboo And Brigalow Flatbow

Today I started preparing materials for what should be an exciting project for me. If members are interested I will do a build a long.

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#18 Post by Bill » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:44 pm

:smile: :smile: Yes Please. 8)

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#19 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:30 am

greybeard wrote:oday I started preparing materials for what should be an exciting project for me. If members are interested I will do a build a long.
Always good seeing bows and arrows being made Daryl.

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#20 Post by cmoore » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:15 am

Definitely be keen to see the build along :biggrin:
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