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Tree ID

#1 Post by umm! » Fri May 17, 2013 10:33 am

Hi guys not sure if I have this in the right place so feel free to move it if its no.t

On to the question,
Can someone please point me in the right direction to identify a tree species.
I do have photos that I can post but figure I should work it out for myself instead of just asking "Hey what tree is this?"

I have heaps of them growing here some of which have some nice straight pieces about 2ish meters long
so I'm hoping for a god bow wood result but will be handy to know whats growing round here anyway.

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Re: Tree ID

#2 Post by bigbob » Fri May 17, 2013 1:30 pm

Several books availablelike Bootles and websites but if you are like me you might find some confusing. One to look out for in your area might be Red Ash or soapwood. If you scratch the bark it is quite red under neath. Can't help with bark ID etc.Main problem trees are a bit like fish species. everyone has a fish/tree in their area with a common shared name. Black wattle is a classic case. I have had two very good bushmen lead me to different acacias and indicate each was 'the' black wattle.
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Re: Tree ID

#3 Post by umm! » Fri May 17, 2013 4:20 pm

Thanks bigbob
I know its not red ash/soapwood I have some images that Stickbow hunter posted in another thread and it is totally different.

I have quite a large one of these trees that has had a big piece broken from bad wind I think which seems to have a nice straight section about 2.5m long that I'm thinking of using and just wanted to try and work out what species it is.
I'll probably just cut it and give it a whirl for the practice if it turns out to be good wood well thats a bonus.
I'll chuck up a few photos anyway to see if anyone recognizes it.
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Re: Tree ID

#4 Post by Keith Lee » Fri May 17, 2013 5:03 pm

Hi Justin i think it could be Brush Box,by the look of the seeds a lot of it grows around this way, good for flooring done know about bow making.

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Re: Tree ID

#5 Post by longbow steve » Fri May 17, 2013 5:29 pm

I have seen a bow made out of Brush Box, Bamboo backed but it should work un backed. Quite a heavy timber though. Cheers Steve

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Re: Tree ID

#6 Post by umm! » Fri May 17, 2013 5:54 pm

Thanks guys
I might do a bit more research on brush box and see what I come up with.

The chunk that came down has been down for at least 12mths and the straight section that I'm thinking of using is well up off the ground so I'm hoping it will be in god condition and reasonably seasoned.

So tomorrow if the weather is good I might go cut it and see what I'm dealing with.

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Re: Tree ID

#7 Post by bigbob » Fri May 17, 2013 6:09 pm

Brush box makes good risers but haven't seen its relevant technical data eg. MoE, etc.
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Re: Tree ID

#8 Post by umm! » Fri May 17, 2013 7:42 pm

Thanks bigbob
I have decided that I will just try it and see what happens its free so I have nothing but time to lose.

I had a bit of a dig through the forums and found this
http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=10573
but like you said when it come to common names you don't really know if it is the same tree.

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Re: Tree ID

#9 Post by perry » Fri May 17, 2013 10:07 pm

I made several Brush Box Selfbows from Floor Boards some Years ago. It is a heavy Timber and due to mass the Bow will have some Handshock unless you can build a Bow with very narrow Limb Tips. It is relatively weak in compression but will work well if you use a longer wider Flatbow design. I have a Formula of double your Drawlengh plus 12 for the length of a Selfbow especially when the Timber is weak in compression as my experience with Brush Bow . I'd make a Pyramid Limbed Bow about 1.5 - 1 3/4" wide at the Fadeouts tapering to 3/8th String Nocks and as long as the Formula I stated earlier if I had a sizable Brush Box Stave as you may have access too.

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Re: Tree ID

#10 Post by umm! » Sat May 18, 2013 9:06 am

Thanks perry
I was planning on using this schematic from Dennis but adjusted to my length
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Re: Tree ID

#11 Post by bigbob » Sat May 18, 2013 5:06 pm

I made a Masseranduba [Bunnings] board bow to the exact dimensions Dennis posted and it turned out great.Originally thought it to be great timber with its straight grain but in reflection think it may be a bit 'doughy', ok but doughy.
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Re: Tree ID

#12 Post by yeoman » Sun May 19, 2013 7:08 am

Brush box is something I've wanted to try for a while. Go for it, I say.

Have a huge pile of fun splitting it!

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