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Gateway feathers

#1 Post by flyne » Wed May 23, 2012 9:13 pm

Has any one noticed that gateways feathers grind has gone to the crapper as of late or did I just get a bad batch
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Re: Gateway feathers

#2 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Wed May 23, 2012 10:05 pm

I haven't bought any for years but they always had a much thicker quill than Trueflight.

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#3 Post by flyne » Wed May 23, 2012 10:33 pm

It wasn't that it was thick it was very uneven
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Re: Gateway feathers

#4 Post by Got_wood?(Treestik;) » Wed May 23, 2012 11:01 pm

G'day flyne. I'm a noobie to the ozbow site and trad archery alike. But was just trawling through and found your post. I have just recently had a set of a doz trad arrows made up using gateway feathers and I have noticed the same issue of very uneven grind On the quill.

Like you said maybe a bad batch or two!

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#5 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Thu May 24, 2012 8:34 am

I think the quality of all feathers has gone down hill over the past few years. I buy full length feathers and cut my my own. Years ago you could usually get two 4" feathers and sometimes a 5" and a 4" from the one full length feather but now days they are so short I get just a 5" from them (Trueflight). Mostly the feather and grind is still good though.

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#6 Post by Nutgrass » Thu May 24, 2012 8:55 am

I have found the quality of full length true flight feathers has gone down hill since I have been using them.
I can't remember where I was reading it, they talk about how fast turkeys are grown for meat, resulting in the quality of the feathers diminishing as a result. They were saying that they can not offer a premium quality range because of the quality of the feathers they were receiving.
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#7 Post by GrahameA » Thu May 24, 2012 5:34 pm

Evening All.

IMHO The Quality is extremely variable. In my case I can buy one lot and they will be even in grind and thickness. The next lot wil be uneven or have thick quils -- or both..
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#8 Post by hazard » Thu May 24, 2012 6:34 pm

I remember this point being made to me by Robert (Wisemans) some time ago, Noting at how they are by far too thick and he uses a small belt sander he got on special at some hardware.

He holds them in a clamp and sands them down.

I am surprised the people from Gateway wouldn't have taken this on board making the appropriate adjustments to their processing.After all they gather,Dye and package them. At least offering a Premium version of product as an alternative. :roll:

This observation must have been made more than once, maybe they just want to flog a cheap product and have no pride in their product. :confused:

Time will tell lets see if they lift their game, outside that vote by purchasing the other brand or buy a small belt sander :wink:

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#9 Post by flyne » Thu May 24, 2012 6:55 pm

Yer I think I will be switching back to Truflight the stupid thing is I had orded Truflight the lot befor but got left wing when I needed right so I reorded gateway instead for a change
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#10 Post by hazard » Thu May 24, 2012 7:13 pm

flyne wrote:Yer I think I will be switching back to Truflight the stupid thing is I had orded Truflight the lot befor but got left wing when I needed right so I reorded gateway instead for a change
I wouldn't get too excited about Left wing or Right wing, even the experts haven't stopped arguing or proven one over the other no matter which hand you are :wink:

Maybe someone can post a graph :wink:

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#11 Post by flyne » Thu May 24, 2012 7:43 pm

Iv only got rw helical clamps but I have noticed in the past I get better wear out of lw but I group better with rw don't know y I just do
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#12 Post by hazard » Thu May 24, 2012 7:49 pm

flyne wrote:Iv only got rw helical clamps but I have noticed in the past I get better wear out of lw but I group better with rw don't know y I just do
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Interesting, are you Left of Right handed?

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#13 Post by flyne » Thu May 24, 2012 8:23 pm

Right handed kinda got to be only got a right hand lol
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#14 Post by hazard » Thu May 24, 2012 8:28 pm

flyne wrote:Right handed kinda got to be only got a right hand lol
Your a clever bloke if you hold the bow in your teeth :lol: Nah I Have been told a prosthetic arm is that right? :wink:

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#15 Post by flyne » Thu May 24, 2012 8:36 pm

Bow in my prosthetic string in hand I tried drawing with my teeth once when I cut my eye bad and just about pulled my tooth out lol
But this has got me thinking about what feather and hand orientation is best or most comen
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#16 Post by hazard » Thu May 24, 2012 8:40 pm

flyne wrote:Bow in my prosthetic string in hand I tried drawing with my teeth once when I cut my eye bad and just about pulled my tooth out lol
But this has got me thinking about what feather and hand orientation is best or most comen
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This shows character Jim, Can you post a picture of yourself shooting?

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#17 Post by flyne » Thu May 24, 2012 8:59 pm

Iv got no idea how to post pics and I don't think iv got any of me shooting might have a few with game in them showing the bow on my prosthetic I can probly get some tomoz
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#18 Post by Nephew » Thu May 24, 2012 9:04 pm

WOW Jim, that's hard core dedication to bowhunting!! I dips me lid to ya, mate! :smile:

Didn't we used to have a girl, "Bandit" or something like that, that was one armed, as a member here years ago, Jeff? I think she used a "tension triggered" release aid in her teeth, and shot a recurve?
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#19 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Thu May 24, 2012 9:10 pm

That is right Craig but she shot a self bow I believe.

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#20 Post by flyne » Thu May 24, 2012 10:30 pm

I was Bourne like it so it has never been any thing to adapt to I think bandit lost hers so adapting after having it in the first place that is a accomplishment I never had to adapt to any thing and onthe upside I don't need to worry about inconsistencys from my elbow down as long as I set it up right in the first place lol
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#21 Post by GrahameA » Fri May 25, 2012 5:28 am

Morning All.
hazard wrote:He holds them in a clamp and sands them down.
I tried that method on my Linisher. Good method to destroy a few feathers. :shock: Now I just rub them back and forth on a board with some sandpaper glued to it.
hazard wrote:I am surprised the people from Gateway wouldn't have taken this on board making the appropriate adjustments to their processing.After all they gather,Dye and package them. At least offering a Premium version of product as an alternative. :roll:
Perhaps no one or not enough have told them.
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#22 Post by hazard » Fri May 25, 2012 6:30 pm

GrahameA wrote:Morning All.

hazard wrote:
He holds them in a clamp and sands them down.

I tried that method on my Linisher. Good method to destroy a few feathers. Now I just rub them back and forth on a board with some sandpaper glued to it.
Thats funny Rob made it look so easy :shock: Did you hold your tongue right? :wink:

GrahameA wrote:hazard wrote:
I am surprised the people from Gateway wouldn't have taken this on board making the appropriate adjustments to their processing.After all they gather,Dye and package them. At least offering a Premium version of product as an alternative.

Perhaps no one or not enough have told them.
I would really hope that 2 of the main suppliers of fletches to the archery fraternity would have a better understanding of their market than some one not telling them. It would seem more like ignorance by choice or they need a cold hard lesson in business management :roll:
Unfortunately it is an old story, and I see it too often :roll:

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#23 Post by daniel boon » Sun May 27, 2012 10:42 am

I use Truflight. Have also found that the Gateway feathers are not up to scratch.

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#24 Post by longbowinfected » Mon May 28, 2012 11:16 am

I sand my flight quills using folded sandpaper, holding the flight using a humungous bull dog paper clamp. i do not paint my quill edges like Andy though. Rather spend more time shooting than fletching although I do like making arrows whilst watching TV.

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