Gateway feathers
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Gateway feathers
Has any one noticed that gateways feathers grind has gone to the crapper as of late or did I just get a bad batch
Cheers Jim
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Re: Gateway feathers
I haven't bought any for years but they always had a much thicker quill than Trueflight.
Jeff
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Re: Gateway feathers
It wasn't that it was thick it was very uneven
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Re: Gateway feathers
G'day flyne. I'm a noobie to the ozbow site and trad archery alike. But was just trawling through and found your post. I have just recently had a set of a doz trad arrows made up using gateway feathers and I have noticed the same issue of very uneven grind On the quill.
Like you said maybe a bad batch or two!
Cheers. Phill
Like you said maybe a bad batch or two!
Cheers. Phill
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Re: Gateway feathers
I think the quality of all feathers has gone down hill over the past few years. I buy full length feathers and cut my my own. Years ago you could usually get two 4" feathers and sometimes a 5" and a 4" from the one full length feather but now days they are so short I get just a 5" from them (Trueflight). Mostly the feather and grind is still good though.
Jeff
Jeff
Re: Gateway feathers
I have found the quality of full length true flight feathers has gone down hill since I have been using them.
I can't remember where I was reading it, they talk about how fast turkeys are grown for meat, resulting in the quality of the feathers diminishing as a result. They were saying that they can not offer a premium quality range because of the quality of the feathers they were receiving.
I can't remember where I was reading it, they talk about how fast turkeys are grown for meat, resulting in the quality of the feathers diminishing as a result. They were saying that they can not offer a premium quality range because of the quality of the feathers they were receiving.
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Re: Gateway feathers
Evening All.
IMHO The Quality is extremely variable. In my case I can buy one lot and they will be even in grind and thickness. The next lot wil be uneven or have thick quils -- or both..
IMHO The Quality is extremely variable. In my case I can buy one lot and they will be even in grind and thickness. The next lot wil be uneven or have thick quils -- or both..
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Re: Gateway feathers
I remember this point being made to me by Robert (Wisemans) some time ago, Noting at how they are by far too thick and he uses a small belt sander he got on special at some hardware.
He holds them in a clamp and sands them down.
I am surprised the people from Gateway wouldn't have taken this on board making the appropriate adjustments to their processing.After all they gather,Dye and package them. At least offering a Premium version of product as an alternative.
This observation must have been made more than once, maybe they just want to flog a cheap product and have no pride in their product.
Time will tell lets see if they lift their game, outside that vote by purchasing the other brand or buy a small belt sander
Hazard
He holds them in a clamp and sands them down.
I am surprised the people from Gateway wouldn't have taken this on board making the appropriate adjustments to their processing.After all they gather,Dye and package them. At least offering a Premium version of product as an alternative.
This observation must have been made more than once, maybe they just want to flog a cheap product and have no pride in their product.
Time will tell lets see if they lift their game, outside that vote by purchasing the other brand or buy a small belt sander
Hazard
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Re: Gateway feathers
Yer I think I will be switching back to Truflight the stupid thing is I had orded Truflight the lot befor but got left wing when I needed right so I reorded gateway instead for a change
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Re: Gateway feathers
I wouldn't get too excited about Left wing or Right wing, even the experts haven't stopped arguing or proven one over the other no matter which hand you areflyne wrote:Yer I think I will be switching back to Truflight the stupid thing is I had orded Truflight the lot befor but got left wing when I needed right so I reorded gateway instead for a change
Maybe someone can post a graph
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Never under estimate the strength of a cornered coward.
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Never under estimate the strength of a cornered coward.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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Re: Gateway feathers
Iv only got rw helical clamps but I have noticed in the past I get better wear out of lw but I group better with rw don't know y I just do
Jim
Jim
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Re: Gateway feathers
Interesting, are you Left of Right handed?flyne wrote:Iv only got rw helical clamps but I have noticed in the past I get better wear out of lw but I group better with rw don't know y I just do
Jim
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Never under estimate the strength of a cornered coward.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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Never under estimate the strength of a cornered coward.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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Re: Gateway feathers
Right handed kinda got to be only got a right hand lol
good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement
Nothing is easy. That's why it's called hunting, and not killing
Nothing is easy. That's why it's called hunting, and not killing
Re: Gateway feathers
Your a clever bloke if you hold the bow in your teeth Nah I Have been told a prosthetic arm is that right?flyne wrote:Right handed kinda got to be only got a right hand lol
Hazard
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Politics is a game played by dishonest people to gain an unfair advantage!
Never under estimate the strength of a cornered coward.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
http://www.bowmanstaxidermy.com.au
Never under estimate the strength of a cornered coward.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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Re: Gateway feathers
Bow in my prosthetic string in hand I tried drawing with my teeth once when I cut my eye bad and just about pulled my tooth out lol
But this has got me thinking about what feather and hand orientation is best or most comen
Jim
But this has got me thinking about what feather and hand orientation is best or most comen
Jim
good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement
Nothing is easy. That's why it's called hunting, and not killing
Nothing is easy. That's why it's called hunting, and not killing
Re: Gateway feathers
This shows character Jim, Can you post a picture of yourself shooting?flyne wrote:Bow in my prosthetic string in hand I tried drawing with my teeth once when I cut my eye bad and just about pulled my tooth out lol
But this has got me thinking about what feather and hand orientation is best or most comen
Jim
Hazard
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Never under estimate the strength of a cornered coward.
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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Re: Gateway feathers
Iv got no idea how to post pics and I don't think iv got any of me shooting might have a few with game in them showing the bow on my prosthetic I can probly get some tomoz
Jim
Jim
good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from poor judgement
Nothing is easy. That's why it's called hunting, and not killing
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Re: Gateway feathers
WOW Jim, that's hard core dedication to bowhunting!! I dips me lid to ya, mate!
Didn't we used to have a girl, "Bandit" or something like that, that was one armed, as a member here years ago, Jeff? I think she used a "tension triggered" release aid in her teeth, and shot a recurve?
Didn't we used to have a girl, "Bandit" or something like that, that was one armed, as a member here years ago, Jeff? I think she used a "tension triggered" release aid in her teeth, and shot a recurve?
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Re: Gateway feathers
That is right Craig but she shot a self bow I believe.
Jeff
Jeff
Re: Gateway feathers
I was Bourne like it so it has never been any thing to adapt to I think bandit lost hers so adapting after having it in the first place that is a accomplishment I never had to adapt to any thing and onthe upside I don't need to worry about inconsistencys from my elbow down as long as I set it up right in the first place lol
Jim
Jim
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Re: Gateway feathers
Morning All.
I tried that method on my Linisher. Good method to destroy a few feathers. Now I just rub them back and forth on a board with some sandpaper glued to it.hazard wrote:He holds them in a clamp and sands them down.
Perhaps no one or not enough have told them.hazard wrote:I am surprised the people from Gateway wouldn't have taken this on board making the appropriate adjustments to their processing.After all they gather,Dye and package them. At least offering a Premium version of product as an alternative.
Grahame.
Shoot a Selfbow, embrace Wood Arrows, discover Vintage, be a Trendsetter.
"Unfortunately, the equating of simplicity with truth doesn't often work in real life. It doesn't often work in science, either." Dr Len Fisher.
Shoot a Selfbow, embrace Wood Arrows, discover Vintage, be a Trendsetter.
"Unfortunately, the equating of simplicity with truth doesn't often work in real life. It doesn't often work in science, either." Dr Len Fisher.
Re: Gateway feathers
Thats funny Rob made it look so easy Did you hold your tongue right?GrahameA wrote:Morning All.
hazard wrote:
He holds them in a clamp and sands them down.
I tried that method on my Linisher. Good method to destroy a few feathers. Now I just rub them back and forth on a board with some sandpaper glued to it.
I would really hope that 2 of the main suppliers of fletches to the archery fraternity would have a better understanding of their market than some one not telling them. It would seem more like ignorance by choice or they need a cold hard lesson in business managementGrahameA wrote:hazard wrote:
I am surprised the people from Gateway wouldn't have taken this on board making the appropriate adjustments to their processing.After all they gather,Dye and package them. At least offering a Premium version of product as an alternative.
Perhaps no one or not enough have told them.
Unfortunately it is an old story, and I see it too often
Hazard
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Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.
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Re: Gateway feathers
I use Truflight. Have also found that the Gateway feathers are not up to scratch.
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Re: Gateway feathers
I sand my flight quills using folded sandpaper, holding the flight using a humungous bull dog paper clamp. i do not paint my quill edges like Andy though. Rather spend more time shooting than fletching although I do like making arrows whilst watching TV.
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