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Black wattle?

#1 Post by bigbob » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:12 pm

This is two pieces of what i think are black wattle, retrieved from a large tree a mate cut down. Unfortunately I only took the two sections about 18'' long by about 12'' dia. If its not black wattle it is some type of Acacia anyway. It is very heavy and dense, but after leaving it to dry out for over 6 months, I split it along a check and cut a couple of pieces on the bandsaw. Unfortunatly it is developing more checks or cracks at the end grain. Reckon it would make great riser material. Any opinions?
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#2 Post by Stickbow Hunter » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:09 pm

That doesn't look like Black Wattle to me mate as it is not dark browns etc. It seems as though it isn't dry and that is probably because it was so thick.

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#3 Post by greybeard » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:44 pm

Bob,

The black wattle I harvest in my region has a distinct early/late growth appearance. Unfortunately it is plagued by grub infestation.

I like it as a riser material and the lower limbs of larger trees can yield excellent limb laminations.
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#4 Post by bigbob » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:04 pm

The bark on your log look a little different to mine, same colour but mine is more segmented. The timber colours are quite different too, as mine has a large outer section of lighter wood, and only a small centre which would approximate 1/3 of its volume.It is very heavy for its size, albiet it still has a fair moisture percentage. i neglected to weight the newly cut logs at the time. These pieces are approx 6 months old and as Jeff said are a little 'wet' iipost a photo of the remaining 'log' tomorrow.Thanks for your collective imput.
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#5 Post by greybeard » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:07 pm

Bob,

A bit of information regarding the experiences I encountered trying to dry timber at a controlled rate.

http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9273


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#6 Post by bigbob » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:08 pm

Thanks Daryl there were a lot of interesting posts.Judicious use of clingwrap may be of some use.Going downstairs now to take those photos of the remaining 'log'
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#7 Post by bigbob » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:33 pm

Took a couple more shots, one of the bark, and the one of the flitch has been wet to show grain.Look nice grain to me, just hoping that I can salvage some for a riser.
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#8 Post by muntries » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:34 pm

The grain features in the top two photos look very much like Southern Sassafras, where was the tree harvested?
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#9 Post by bigbob » Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:43 am

G'day muntries. Thanks for your response, it is appreciated. A mate and I cut the tree down in his yard here on the Sunshine Coast in Qld. If it is Sassafras how does it measure up?
Just did some research and obviously not Southern Sassafra due to location and not Northern due to different timber colour and grain, also mass weight is too low for this timber. i really have no idea.
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#10 Post by bigbob » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:22 am

Any suggestions? About the timber that is, smart alec!
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#11 Post by muntries » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:04 am

if you had some leaves, flowers of seed I might be able to better ID it. The bark looks superficially like some of the mountain blackwoods you sometimes see growing in the Otways and Strzlecki Ranges in Vic. That occurs up into QLD so a possibility... but Blackwood tends to be a much darker timber but it does have the black heart patterns you see in the top photos (which actually occurs because of a fungus).
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#12 Post by bigbob » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:24 am

Thanks again muntries. At the time I took notice of the leaf dimensions, colour etc, and made a mental note to file them away for future reference. Unfortunately, as is the norm these days I dont have the password into that area of my brain [ I clean forgot] but I will be speaking with the mate soon that owned the tree we cut out, so if he has any info I will post it up.Thanks for your input.
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#13 Post by greybeard » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:06 am

Hi Bob,

Does this look like the log you had?
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#14 Post by bigbob » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:52 pm

Does look very similar, perhaps the 'creases' in the bark are not as pronounced but that is not an accurate assessment. What tree is i, and do you know what colour flower it has, and if it is deciduous?
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#15 Post by Keith Lee » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:36 pm

The tree in greybeards pic looks like Red ash or Soupwood or White Myrtle all the same tree Bob.

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#16 Post by bigbob » Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:28 pm

Thanks Keith, did you mean soapwood? I am still at a loss because the curve ball is that the tree was deciduous. Havent cut any out of the log i've got recently, as I dont own a chainsaw these days and its too wide for my table saw.Might just use wedges and split it .
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#17 Post by greybeard » Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:57 pm

Keith,

The tree trunk in the photo is Wilga.

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