Ozbow

Gearing up for some treking/camping and looking for opinions and ideas for cooking and whether i am better off with the white spirit or gas cookers. Happy to discuss any other gear and food that you recomend. Thanks Steve

Great post! I have just started to look into this as well...

Steve
I have an almost un used triangie.
I stopped using because I was told alloy pots give you Alzheimer's and my brain is, well you know how it is.
It works on metho.
Don't buy anything yet.

Don't say anything. No my brain doesn't use metho the stove does.

Hi Mark, I just did a bit of research and there is studies/results both ways regarding Alzheimers and alluminium but having said that we too got rid of our alluminum cooking utensils because of that.
Worth considering.
I do use an alluminum billy and drink out of cans though steve

I've used a little single burner Primos stove for many years. It takes the disposable butane cans. It's just a simple little burner about 4 inches square that screws directly to the top of the can. You can buy the butane cans in all different sizes. I have the large ones that I take when I'm camping near the car and I've got some very small lightweight refils that I use when I have to carry them. The disposable butane cans are available at all camping shops and they're not that expensive.

I'm not saying it's the best possible arrangement, but I've used mine very successfully for around 15 years, so I can't complain. It's very lightweight.

The thing I like about my stove is the fact that there's nothing to spill. It's easy to tell when the butan cans are getting low, so you're not likely to run out of gas. Mine burns very efficiently and it takes no time to boil enough water for a cuppa.

I've also got aluminium pots, etc that I use with it. but the best accessory that I have is a lightweight folding aluminium wind shield that fits around the stove in windy conditions.

I've often thought about buying myself something that might be better, but I can't see that anything would be much more effective in the field anyway, so I haven't bothered.

Mick

i'm going to buy a MSR whisperlite soon.

Thanks Mick and Clinton, The Whisper light looks good, it says it runs on white gas? Steve

Ive tried the Trangia, the MSR Wisper4lite and a bunch of gas-burners. But now i found the ultimate solution, the Primus ETA-Power for Gsaoline. Its samll when packed, has more power then needed, needs nearly no fuel (0,35 l last me 1 1/2 weeks (three meals aday), the pots are included and with a non-stick coating and its absolute reliable. OK, the price maybe a disadvantage but its definately worth it. I will try to post some pics.

HI Steve< I have a MSR WhisperLite Internationale tm 600 Stove< surplus to my requirements, you pay the postage fees, it's yours. I have all the instructions etc that you need. PM if your interested. Cheers Roadie.

Very generous Roadie, I will send a pm. Steve

Roadie wrote:HI Steve< I have a MSR WhisperLite Internationale tm 600 Stove< surplus to my requirements, you pay the postage fees, it's yours. I have all the instructions etc that you need. PM if your interested. Cheers Roadie.

Now that is a very generous offer

Hobo stove...

Dylan

I'm a fan of the metho stoves. Butane doesn't go well when its cold, and metho doesn't stink up your gear if a bit spills - the smell of kero or petrol in my clothes or sleeping bag doesn't do much for me. Used a metho stove (Trangia) for a week camping in the snow and it worked well. The aluminium pots might be a problem, but you can always use something else.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yo ... Stove.aspx
Is that what you mean Dylan? I like it .
Thats a good point Allan, I hate the smell of petrol. Steve

HI Steve, do you still want me to send the whisperlite, it uses all types of fuel, but I mainly use white spirits very little smell. Cheers Roadie.

Yes please Roadie . Thanks

Yeah somin like that longbow steve but I used a 1ltr tomato tin, works suprizingly good, very efficient with wood.

Dylan

jet boil all the way..i been using one now for two seasons...best there is..

Thanks Pedro, I read on another site a fella used his one gas cylinder for a week on a remote trek, are they that economical? Have you had any trouble getting it going on the cold mornings as raised in an above thread. What are the pots made from? Steve

steve im not ure what the pots are made from..some sorta alloy.. very light indeed and extra good on fuel...not sure on extra cold starts like snow capped peaks and such but ive used mine in the dead of winter in the mountains in nsw and never missed a beat...not sure what prob would arise..hve a look on thier website..i must say i luv mine, all i take is the jet boil and a plastic sfork for a week...the botom cover is big enough for a decent coffee. i just eat outa dehydrated packets..did i say i luv mine.

Hi Pedro, The mountains are enough of a test, The butane cookers you get from Kmart etc freeze during use in weather 5 degrees and lower especially if you leave them out over night. Maybe the design of the Jetboil keeps the cylinder warm and prevents this. Thanks for your info. Steve
Ps Whats your favourite dehydrated meal? Do they do a curry? . Steve

steve, i would say it was below 5 deg and it worked ok, no probs...my fav meals would be lesagnia and beef stroganouf. they do make curry's but steer clear of the asian curry. its uneatable, i gave mine to the buzzards.

Steve the Jetboil jetpower fuel canisters are a propane / isobutane mix (I can't remember the ratio) and are rated for 4 season use.
Propane provides higher vapor pressure to the fuel for better performance in cold weather. Iso-butane provides more constant pressure as the fuel level gets low.
I'm pretty sure I read some info given to me by a sales rep a while ago that rated the jetpower fuel canisters down to -15 with no loss in performance, but they will still work lower than that they just start to lose performance.

Butane has a boiling point of 0 degrees celcius so below 0 and the liquid will not convert to gas. This is the reason why the butane canister stoves won't work below 0 degrees and also why they lose performance the closer they get to zero.

Good info thanks Paul . Steve

I only have a tranjia. I do believe since then, that Denali have brought out a copy about half the price. I dont know how good they are compared. One of the reasons I went for a tranjia those years ago was because I wasnt sure how easy it would be to "pickup" a spare gas cylinder should I find myself short on a trip. Not really a consideration to be honest. I have as yet not had any spills or leaks but im forever in fear of such. I dont think I ever even saw the jetboil at the time of purchase, but it looks good. One thing I must say for the tranjia is that Ive never burnt food with it.. Its weird. Dont think its fierce enough to :lol It may take longer but suits me. Im never in a hurry when out bush.

I also might add here that those vacume sealer thingos are magic. First night out is always stew. Vacumed into a plastic bag. Water in pot, tea towel (or some way to keep the plastic off the sides of the pot) bag in, and boil. You have hot water for a cuppa and hot stew... ooh if your into coffee drinking you will have to buy a coffee towel :lol

Way back in the eighties when I first heard of the connection between aluminium cooking pots and Alzhiemers I went out and bought my evil step-mother a whole set! I didn't live with her any more, so I wasn't going to eat out of 'em. The woman had no notion of what I was saying with this "gift"! She actually thanked me and thought it generous! ( kinda backfired on me, didn't it? ) Of course, you change with life over the years and I would NEVER do such a thing to her now. After all, I'm not a young single man any more, I couldn't afford to give away a set of pots and pans these days!

Steve I found the triangia.
I have used it but it's in good condition. Let me know if you still want it.
Reg Tex

Hey Mark, I would like to try it . The MSR stove Roadie sent me arrived today and looks great, I cant wait to give it a whirl. Steve

just bought myself an MSR whisperlite internationale. seems to be exactly what i want. burns REAL hot! much more versatile in that it can burn a variety of fuels. i've never been a fan of canister stoves, even though they work well, simply because you have to buy canisters. when your in the middle of nowhere camping for a few weeks or a month you can't duck down to the camping shop for more cans, you have to carry spares with you. if i'm going to carry extra fuel it'll be for the ute, might as well be able to use it for the stove as well. everything needs to have two uses. for the price of a canister in fuel i can boil a lot of water.