Hi Jape Sad to see you go but the door is always open .
I for one have been in an organization for recovering Alcoholic's for years 16 to be precise .And been there that long I know a thing or two but have to keep an open mind so best for me to always be a student rather than a teacher .
For a lot of years I used to go there listen and relax and other people would be plugging away in the back ground .It took me years before I realized that things don't get done by themselves .So for this organization to survive there had to be people in the background doing work to keep it going .
I used to think if some one drops it there is all ways some one out there to pick it back up and keep it going . Some times some one does not pick it up and the whole things falls apart .
(for example the Victorian ash shafts where very good shafts at low cost and no one has been capable of taking that place up again)
in that organization I found that the biggest critic's about how things where run when I picked up some responsibility where the ones that never could pick up responsibility .
That aside there is a primary purpose there and that is stay clean and sober and carry the message .
I learnt one thing and that is very simple stick to the primary purpose .
Stay alive stay sober stay healthy .
So the primary purpose of that place is to stay sober and help others do the same full stop.
If I want more from that place it does not do that .
It does not pay my rent .It does not give me a social life .It does not give me money .
It does not take me out for holidays .It does not give me unlimited amounts of women .
It does not give me material things .
So it does give me the primary purpose to myself stay sober and being sober I can teach an other how I did it .And help them find their way of staying sober or more precise tell them its possible .Full stop .That's the end of that one .
Now for me its pretty simple .When I need money I go to the bank .
I don't go to the bank to get groceries I go to the bank to get money .
When I need groceries I go to the supermarket store to get them .
When I need to post something I go to the post office .
Each place has a primary propose a mission to accomplish .
Each place serves its purpose .
That primary purpose is central to each organization .
Each organization lives because its primary purpose .
I don't know I could be wrong but what I get is that there is a primary purpose here in this sight .And that purpose I believe (I could be wrong ) is to keep Bow hunting alive in Australia .
So this is what I am getting .That the primary purpose here is to keep traditional bowhunting alive in this country .And what a beautiful country it is .
In the UK they banned bow hunting .Its great they still have a big traditional archery scene .
Over here you have big spaces of land one of the most wiled places on earth vast spaces of land uninhabited .What I great place to bowhunt .I am not saying other parts of the world are not great but .I got to value what we have here .And what we have is a pretty good start .
I think there would be something wrong with some one who likes Bow hunting if they did not value some of the great hunting places we have here .
In Alcoholics anonymous if some one tells you they are doing this stay sober thing for the people around them and all they care about is other Alcoholics to stay sober .
These people that say this are full of it these people are very charismatic .People tend to look up to them .
Be carefully of these types these types suicide after many years sober .
And they're listeners are always surprised .
I am not surprised! I am honest .I am selfish I am there to save my life .THEY CALL IT A SELFISH PROGRAM .And that is what it is .You got to take a lot before you can have enoph gratitude to give .
You can't give what you don't have .
When you have received a lot over the years and you are overflowing then you can give a little.
People in Sydney have truly lost touch with reality .They sit down to eat steak after work or eat chicken they eat lamb they consume it all the time either they eat it in Chinese restaurants in pies or kebabs or Mack Donalds .They lost touch that every time they eat that food some one had to put the animal down that is covered up they don't show it on television .They have lost touch with their Essen .They should have a traditional Cooking show where they show the person planting vegetables then sharpening breadboards making they're strings and making their bows quiver globes and arm brasses then showing that person practicing shooting .
Then them hunting and achieving game and last the cooking of the meal and tanning of the skins .
We are blessed In this country with lots of wild life and hunting places.
It is a great place to bow hunt .And bow hunting are one of the beautiful things in life for me .
A chain is as strong as its weakest link .We can't have a beautiful country like this close its doors to bouncing such beautiful land to bow hunt in .
So for me there is a saying you can't be half pregnant it here you are pregnant or not .
In Alcoholics Unanimous there are rules and principles we live by .
Things can really go of the rails some times in AA and we have a saying principles before personality's .
Some times there are big personality's who want to do away with the principles .
And it takes work on the side of the long term oldtimers of the place to bring it back to they're version of principles .
At the call center that I work at the primary purpose is to sell that's how I see it .
For the sales person has to sell .
That gets you in the door .Some time administration has a new comer and he or she will have a different primary purpose and that is to control people .And at one point normally that administrator will have to make a decision what's more important to try to control people or get the sales rate up .Eventually back and forward they make a decision .
The primary purpose in that call center for that day with over 100 people on the floor is to sell .Sell sell sell .
Most of the times every thing gets back to normal when every body starts to focus on the primary purpose to sell .
Humane beings can be very but very complex .
So for me its best to keep it very simple .
This sight has been running from 2003 and its done a very good job .
I am grateful that the administrators here have been keeping this sight going for that long .
I am also happy that they are keeping it alive .
This sight has given me a lot how to in the traditional archery .Such as quivers arrows shooting string making ,bow making that I want to get into .
And these people do Bow hunting and traditional Bow making .Fantastic
And there is some thing in archery that I love really find fascinating .
So I am grateful I can come back from work switch on the computer .
And can see people who have been hunting and people building bows and arrows .
allso I am greatfull this place networks archery avents and I can contact bow makers get ideas on arrow making
its a HUB .and suports local tradicional archery Bussines .so as keeping archery equipment in archers hands .
and bussines to be able to suply it .and those bussines would not be able to survive if people did not love archery .the bussines Guys Girls and the Buyers .
PS Jape If you do get that deer dont hesitate to post it up .It would be great to see.
all the best for you Jape stay alive stay healthy .love youreself and the things you love .
anyway the comon element here is that people like tradicional Bow hunting and you cant hunt tradicionaly if you have not got traditional equipment bows arrows strings quivers ,bowmaking ,arrow making.
to post with fairness and humour, to listen and to learn from the many very experienced and decent folk here. I have made some good friendships that will endure, made a couple of 'enemies' that through time and maturity have become at the least amicable antagonists, and I have learnt a lot and had some wonderful support and advice. Thanks to all. I shall drop in for PM's and some personal threads in the short term but I shall not post nor will I change my mind unless things change drastically.
, I love reading your posts and your humour appeals to me. You know how to contact me should you need to know why your arrows are going left etc. Steve 
.Obviously I must have felt I needed to say some thing 