Which converter for a young feather burner
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Which converter for a young feather burner
So I brought a young Feather burner, now I need a step down voltage converter, but I need to know how many amps or watts it draws to buy the right converter.
Anyone got any idea ?
All it's got printed on it is 110-115 volts 50-60 cycles only.
Anyone got any idea ?
All it's got printed on it is 110-115 volts 50-60 cycles only.
Shooters get to 50m to shoot, but only a hunter gets inside 20m to hunt.RABBITS (karen) wrote:NUTGRASS >>----> Nobody knows where he came from, & nobody knows how to get rid of him.
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
Try Jaycar, they are very helpful.
http://search.jaycar.com.au/search?w=st ... ransformer
I bought the $129.00 unit to run my 110 volt heat strips. The outlet socket handles the odd pin setup on the strip plug.
Daryl.
http://search.jaycar.com.au/search?w=st ... ransformer
I bought the $129.00 unit to run my 110 volt heat strips. The outlet socket handles the odd pin setup on the strip plug.
Daryl.
"And you must not stick for a groat or twelvepence more than another man would give, if it be a good bow.
For a good bow twice paid for, is better than an ill bow once broken. [Ascham]
“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?” [Einstein]
I am old enough to make my own decisions....Just not young enough to remember what I decided!....
For a good bow twice paid for, is better than an ill bow once broken. [Ascham]
“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?” [Einstein]
I am old enough to make my own decisions....Just not young enough to remember what I decided!....
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
Thanks Daryl, I have been in contact with Jaycar here, but with out an amps or watts usage they can't say which unit I need to run it.
Will keep investigating.
Will keep investigating.
Shooters get to 50m to shoot, but only a hunter gets inside 20m to hunt.RABBITS (karen) wrote:NUTGRASS >>----> Nobody knows where he came from, & nobody knows how to get rid of him.
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.a ... faq&i=4171
click on the '1 answer' under the question and they say 100 watts
Google is your friend ... 100 watts (100VA step down transformer, probably fused at 1 amp). That is surprisingly light fro a heating element but I would surmise that 3 Rivers are much too careful to post a wrong answer about this.
There is also a guy confirms this rating on another forum.
DO NOT buy a cheap chinese transformer rated at 100w, it will probably only be safe at about 50 to 80 watts
BUT this $40 (inc. express 7 days postage) one below should do fine and gives you a price point to check against jaycar etc. where you will probably have to pay $100!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200W-Step-Do ... 4a912b0505
I would get this one myself for that job but although I have electrical/electronic background I can only suggest as I am not certified in Aus.
click on the '1 answer' under the question and they say 100 watts
Google is your friend ... 100 watts (100VA step down transformer, probably fused at 1 amp). That is surprisingly light fro a heating element but I would surmise that 3 Rivers are much too careful to post a wrong answer about this.
There is also a guy confirms this rating on another forum.
DO NOT buy a cheap chinese transformer rated at 100w, it will probably only be safe at about 50 to 80 watts
BUT this $40 (inc. express 7 days postage) one below should do fine and gives you a price point to check against jaycar etc. where you will probably have to pay $100!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200W-Step-Do ... 4a912b0505
I would get this one myself for that job but although I have electrical/electronic background I can only suggest as I am not certified in Aus.
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
G'day Gary,
I bought one similar to this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/240v-110v-St ... 5aed19935b except it is white and cost $123 posted a couple of years ago. IMO a 2000W unit for $75 posted is worth the gamble. Mine has spent quite a few hours hooked up to bow making heat strips with no problems.
I bought some spare burner wires for a Young's burner and used them in a home made burner. From memory it took about 10 amps at 4 volts ( = 40 W) with a bench top DC power source to get them hot enough to do the job, not as hot as they show it on the 3 Rivers video though. I found that hot melted the fletch tape at both ends
Daryl, I don't know what temperature is inferred, but my Bingham's heat strips are stamped with 270 W for the 1.5" and 360 W for the 2" strips. I can't imagine they put out anywhere near that much though at 65 C.
Cheers.... Rod
PS. If you have a mulitmeter you could measure the output voltage of the burner and the resistance of the NiChrome heat strip and estimate the power required using Power = VoltsxVolts/Resistance ( P = V^2/R ). Just be bloody careful not to get yourself burned
I bought one similar to this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/240v-110v-St ... 5aed19935b except it is white and cost $123 posted a couple of years ago. IMO a 2000W unit for $75 posted is worth the gamble. Mine has spent quite a few hours hooked up to bow making heat strips with no problems.
I bought some spare burner wires for a Young's burner and used them in a home made burner. From memory it took about 10 amps at 4 volts ( = 40 W) with a bench top DC power source to get them hot enough to do the job, not as hot as they show it on the 3 Rivers video though. I found that hot melted the fletch tape at both ends
Daryl, I don't know what temperature is inferred, but my Bingham's heat strips are stamped with 270 W for the 1.5" and 360 W for the 2" strips. I can't imagine they put out anywhere near that much though at 65 C.
Cheers.... Rod
PS. If you have a mulitmeter you could measure the output voltage of the burner and the resistance of the NiChrome heat strip and estimate the power required using Power = VoltsxVolts/Resistance ( P = V^2/R ). Just be bloody careful not to get yourself burned
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
Rod, my 1 1/2" strips are marked 270w and the 1 3/4" strips are marked 320w. Do the rate them depending on surface area / resistance?rodlonq wrote:Daryl, I don't know what temperature is inferred, but my Bingham's heat strips are stamped with 270 W for the 1.5" and 360 W for the 2" strips. I can't imagine they put out anywhere near that much though at 65 C.
My transformer has a frequency range of 50 - 60 hertz and operation current is sine wave.
Daryl.
"And you must not stick for a groat or twelvepence more than another man would give, if it be a good bow.
For a good bow twice paid for, is better than an ill bow once broken. [Ascham]
“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?” [Einstein]
I am old enough to make my own decisions....Just not young enough to remember what I decided!....
For a good bow twice paid for, is better than an ill bow once broken. [Ascham]
“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?” [Einstein]
I am old enough to make my own decisions....Just not young enough to remember what I decided!....
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
Daryl, I assume the power rating on them is the power draw at maximum temperature. According to the flyer at this website http://www.watlow.com/downloads/en/spec ... rh0311.pdf (from a different manufacturer) wire wound silicon pads can be used up to 260 C and may be made in power density up to 12.5 W/sq.in. For comparison, the Bingham's heat strips have only 0.6 W/sq.in.
Cheers.... Rod
Cheers.... Rod
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
Good memory Rod. I just looked up the thread we had on this a while ago:rodlonq wrote:I bought some spare burner wires for a Young's burner and used them in a home made burner. From memory it took about 10 amps at 4 volts ( = 40 W) with a bench top DC power source to get them hot enough to do the job, not as hot as they show it on the 3 Rivers video though. I found that hot melted the fletch tape at both ends
http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=10774
and 4 volts at 10 amps was what we both found, though these days I'm using 5.5 volts - I haven't measured the current.
Alan
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
Thanks guys, yes 100 watts is more than enough. I now have spoken to plenty of people running them successfully with 64 watt converters.
Buying online is far cheaper, but if you can't wait & you just want to use it (this is me) $99 for a 125 watt unit from jaycar gets you going
Very very happy with it, so much uniformity with the feathers, looks much neater than using a chopper.
Buying online is far cheaper, but if you can't wait & you just want to use it (this is me) $99 for a 125 watt unit from jaycar gets you going
Very very happy with it, so much uniformity with the feathers, looks much neater than using a chopper.
Shooters get to 50m to shoot, but only a hunter gets inside 20m to hunt.RABBITS (karen) wrote:NUTGRASS >>----> Nobody knows where he came from, & nobody knows how to get rid of him.
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
Al, they must have a nice red glow at 5.5 V?alaninoz wrote:Good memory Rod. I just looked up the thread we had on this a while ago:rodlonq wrote:I bought some spare burner wires for a Young's burner and used them in a home made burner. From memory it took about 10 amps at 4 volts ( = 40 W) with a bench top DC power source to get them hot enough to do the job, not as hot as they show it on the 3 Rivers video though. I found that hot melted the fletch tape at both ends
http://www.ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=10774
and 4 volts at 10 amps was what we both found, though these days I'm using 5.5 volts - I haven't measured the current.
Cheers.... Rod
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
No, still quite dark. To get a glow on my set-up I need to go to about 8 volts (from memory, might only be 7). I get up into that region, and higher, every so often to clean the muck off the strip and so get a clean profile.rodlonq wrote:Al, they must have a nice red glow at 5.5 V?
Cheers.... Rod
Alan
Re: Which converter for a young feather burner
I've been using one of these stepdown transformers with my Young Feather Burner for years. Works fine.
Thought pics might help. Just in case the label is unreadable, it's a Dick Smith M1151 Stepdown Transformer Adaptor. Input: 230/240 V AC. Output: 115V AC 65 VA.
Hope that helps.
Andy
Thought pics might help. Just in case the label is unreadable, it's a Dick Smith M1151 Stepdown Transformer Adaptor. Input: 230/240 V AC. Output: 115V AC 65 VA.
Hope that helps.
Andy
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