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Mouse Removal

#1 Post by Roadie » Fri May 06, 2011 8:24 pm

Evening All
I have just purchased a new Mouse Trap, and the instructions on the trap leave me a little bewildered.
First off is says this trap is designed for the humane capture and removal of mice, therefore please be mindful of
following recommended guidelines.
1 When releasing a mouse care should be taken to release it in an area where it can live normally........ Can some one tell me where that is.
2 Do not release in an open area such as a lawn or open parkland. QUESTION 2 Why Not.
3 Do not release in hazardous area such as roads etc. Once again Why Not.
4 Do not release in the presence of other amimals. Why not, what is the Cat going to play with.
LASTLY
5 If the mouse needs to be destroyed this needs to be effected as quickly and Humanely as possible.
QUESTION
What is a Humane Kill. Put it in a Bag and hit it with a hammer, Drown it, Gas it, or cut its throat, or just stomp on it with
Size 10 Boot.
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#2 Post by hazard » Fri May 06, 2011 8:28 pm

I would say these are written by some University Greenie moron without a clue. Just hit the Ba$tard with a hammer and be done with it! I would then do the same with the mouse!!!!
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Re: Mouse Removal

#3 Post by hue » Fri May 06, 2011 9:16 pm

Hiya Roadie

i've got a far more humane way of dealing with your mouse problem!
i have a snake just right for any domestic situation and for any sized rodent.
my rates a cheap and are usually paid in liquid forms :D

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Re: Mouse Removal

#4 Post by dmm » Fri May 06, 2011 9:30 pm

Roadie wrote: QUESTION
What is a Humane Kill.
I refer you to the code of ethics this site has adopted.
OzBows Code of Ethics

Number 3.
That the only morally defensible shot is one where a humane killing shot is probabale; (sic)

So clearly is it possible, if not highly probable that you can achieve a humane kill with your bow.
Now, I'm not sure that you need use a broadhead, possibly for a mouse a blunt or judo would be acceptable.

According to guideline number 6 however the mouse cannot be entrapped, so it would be proper for you to release it, give it a fair head start. However as your trap's instructions state, it's a little unclear where you can release it, in order for a humane killing. Perhaps best just to let it go in your kitchen, or wherever you caught it in the first place. Gosh this really is a better mousetrap.

Couldn't help myself :)

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#5 Post by Nutgrass » Fri May 06, 2011 9:35 pm

Well Shanks & I are Mice specialists :shock: Yep, officially we both registered mice as our first trad kills :shock:
Broadheads do the job, but generally destroy to much for a trophy mount :?

I am not sure if I ever put it on here, but I should dig the story out & share it with you :wink:
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Re: Mouse Removal

#6 Post by woodie » Fri May 06, 2011 9:36 pm

I like the drowning methard. Not sure how humane it is I timed it once when getting rid if some from the shed, they can old there breath for about 30 sec. Anyway a good flick to the back of the head works well, like you do to rabbits but with 1 finger not the hole hand.
Why would you want to let the little lovlies go anyway?
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#7 Post by Flatliner » Fri May 06, 2011 9:50 pm

hazard wrote:I would say these are written by some University Greenie moron without a clue. Just hit the Ba$tard with a hammer and be done with it! I would then do the same with the mouse!!!!
Good one Hazard :lol: :lol: :lol:
By the way where is Maraylya?

I would go the snake method myself.

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Re: Mouse Removal

#8 Post by blu-dog » Fri May 06, 2011 10:10 pm

Here's the original saga Gidget! Dated 25/7/09

Blu-dog & myself had decided to head to one of his hunting properties, as we had been told pigs had been getting into the cane.

So Thursday night we headed out to see what we could find, hopefully spot where they were coming from so we knew where to head in the daylight hours.
After a couple of hours we had found nothing, no real sign at all. We did how ever have a laugh chasing hares around in the dark with the torch.
So we headed home a little disappointed we had found nothing.

Friday arvo & we returned to speak with the owner & see what he knew, he pointed us in the direction of where they had been rooting sometime between us leaving Thursday night & Friday morning.

So with a smile we hatched a plan to head back a bit later in the night to try & spy them.
We decided to take the long bows with us this time, just in case we ran into a hare again ;-)
After an hour or 2 we had decided they mustn't be heading in of a night, more likely just before day break. So we upped stumps & went for a short walk to try & see what else we could find.
Well fox's, cats, hares.... you name it..... everywhere, although we never see any of them in the day time.
Not getting anywhere near bow range, we turned with our tail between our legs & started the walk back to the car.

When all of a sudden I saw this little thing move from the corner of my eye.
I flicked the head light on & set about a chase. I kid you not, this beast must have been the fastest, most agile animal in the world.
I just couldn't get a shot on it. In, out, left & right it had our measure.
With a couple of shots missing by mere inches, my next was to be the first kill for me with the long bow.

YEP, from 3 metres I had taken a mouse. One shot kill

Not to be out done, Blu-dog set out in search of another to blood his long bow.
Sure enough, not 10 minutes later we are in hot pursuit again, a few wayward shots as once again the agility of the little bugger was getting the better of us less mobile freaks.
Then came the thump that ended proceedings. Blu-dog had squared the ledger & disposed of another vermin.

What a classic 20 minutes that was, we were both near knackered after running around in powdery sand. But both sporting huge stupid grins on our faces.
We strolled back to the car with our chests puffed out, yep, the great white hunters had taken 2 mice!

Both 1st kills of species, as well as both 1st Trad kills.

Thanks for reading


Sorry to Hijack the thread Roadie!
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Re: Mouse Removal

#9 Post by Gringa Bows » Fri May 06, 2011 10:12 pm

Good idea Hazard,but you would get into more strife for hitting the mouse :?

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#10 Post by Gringa Bows » Fri May 06, 2011 10:15 pm

i remember that story ,lucky you guy's were'nt gored :shock: :lol:

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#11 Post by Jeffro » Fri May 06, 2011 10:18 pm

Roadie,how bout just buy a normal mouse trap and not have to answer those questions as everyone knows the result.;
snap,mouse is finished end of problem.

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#12 Post by blu-dog » Fri May 06, 2011 10:19 pm

:lol:
True Rod - definitely not for the light hearted - extreme hunting at its best!!!
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#13 Post by Gringa Bows » Fri May 06, 2011 10:34 pm

:lol: :lol:

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Re: Mouse Removal

#14 Post by Roadie » Sat May 07, 2011 7:22 am

Morning All, Thanks for the replies, I agree the best trap is the one with the spring, BUT a good one is hard to find, the dear Bride brought this one and after reading the instructions, I knew I had to post it on OZ Bow. Just my sence of Humor, and to see what advice would be handed out, All helpful. Cheers Roadie.

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#15 Post by dmm » Sat May 07, 2011 9:02 am

Obviously I was also making a joke, suggesting you could shoot the mouse with your bow, but look at the story, with pictures that was posted of guys doing just that! What a wonderful forum we have here.
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#16 Post by kerrille » Sat May 07, 2011 9:40 am

i find icing sugar and cement do a good job sets em solid and they dont smell

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#17 Post by WOLF » Sat May 07, 2011 10:47 am

ROFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Geez Guys I Think we have found the perfect mouse trap if we put all of the above together LOL
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#18 Post by Nutgrass » Sat May 07, 2011 10:52 am

That story still has me laughing hard Shanks. Was a funny time that is for sure. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#19 Post by longbowinfected » Sat May 07, 2011 5:49 pm

We sell 9volt DC rat and mouse traps......they are a blast. Not that the rodents get a vote or asked to express an opinion but would be considered humane.

I am not too keen on sending critters to Bondi. Giving them a swimming lesson is unecessarily cruel. Rats can hold their breathe for a very long time. They can tread water for a couple of days.

If feeding to snakes you need to trim their claws.

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#20 Post by Stephen Georgiou » Sat May 07, 2011 8:54 pm

Here are 2 who were moved on to the next world without any fuss.

Hunting these little critters was a real challenge. 4.30 am I heard scratching at my tent.
The previous day was full of screams and squeals from the ladies at our camp ground who woke with the uneasy feeling of something in their sleeping bags. One lucky lady woke with one running across her face!
Not to be placed in the same position I knew what had to be done.
The trusty recurve was strung from the previous day shooting and arrows ready for another day of target shooting.
I carefully got dressed. Careful that I had no visitors in my clothes!

Bare fingered, I raised the bow to the sound of the scratching, took care to identify the species and thwack> the first victim fell. (Actually, pinned motionless to the ground!) not a single movement was seen post shot. I suppose that this is expected given the projectile is a similar size to the whole of the vital area of this creature.
Shortly after the first kill a second candidate tried its luck at the food locker. Big mistake. With enough adrenaline to run a tractor I stealthily raised the bow again to take the second kill for the day, before sunrise.

With my hunting done for the day, with the excitement of the kill still fresh I went back to bed to finish my dreams of a time when hunting was revered. No, honored.... To dream.
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#21 Post by hazard » Sat May 07, 2011 9:43 pm

Flatliner
Maraylya is near Windsor NSW, about 12 mins north.

kerrille
I have read of this idea though with flour not Icing sugar and I believe it is quite effective, but it would completely ruin the thrill of the hunt.

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Do you reckon you would have them mounted, I reckon it would be quite a conversation starter.

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#22 Post by Stephen Georgiou » Sun May 08, 2011 8:46 am

:D
I am getting images of seeing one mounted at our club amongst the other trophies.
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#23 Post by kerrille » Mon May 09, 2011 8:14 am

hazard, i use the icing sugar and cement combo in the sheds ...i got sick of putting holes in the walls also my lab wont eat it

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#24 Post by hazard » Mon May 09, 2011 5:19 pm

Nev
Just make sure you leave them a nice littl drink of water, if its quickset you will have little 3D targets set up for a massive field course and we could have a competition and a trophy!
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#25 Post by hue » Mon May 09, 2011 9:06 pm

Hey Kev?

trim the claws before feeding to snakes?????????
When do they get time to do that in the wild? ROFL
"Excuse me Mr. Rat, mind trimmimg those claws quick, don't want them tearing up my new coat or insides"
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#26 Post by dawallace45 » Tue May 10, 2011 8:45 am

Hue

The main problem with your solution to the mouse problem is that the cure tends to be more problematic than the original problem ,

Over the last several months here we have been having a minor mouse plague , snakes in larger numbers started turning up with the rains when we had the frog plague and it wasn't unusual to hear several frogs being taken by snakes a night and some times they left a mess of blood on the veranda as evidence but as things dried off a bit the mice came and for some reason they took up residence in the storage area of my shed , now that is some thing I really don't under stand as there really isn't any thing in there for a mouse or rat to eat , but the mice attracted the snakes , the evidence being about six snake skins left hanging from the rafters over the last few months , now if the skins were from carpet snakes that would be bad enough [ really , really don't like snakes ] but according to the local snake enthusiast the skins are from a brown snake and range in size from 7 ft to 3 1/2ft , my storage area is 9 metres by 2 metres and with shelving and timber racks it doesn't leave room to manoeuvre so to a large degree any work needing timber from the storage area has been postponed , have put down mouse baits and put **** loads of naphthalene flakes about , but every so long I see a bit more snake sign about , don't actually see them just sign they have been there

Any suggestion for getting rid of the snakes ?

I see a few Brown snakes about down the back yard where I'm putting in a archery range and a few red belly blacks and quite a few rough scale snakes and even a tiger snake on the veranda that ended up with a severe dose of fly spray when it tried to take up residence in the air conditioner [ snake was dark , almost black with distinctive stripes , I thought tiger snakes didn't get this far north but it was identified by local snake feller , been a few around this year ] and even though I tend to leave snakes to their own devices down the back yard I can't abide them around the house , local snake feller reckons that there have been a lot of Taipans about this year as well , neighbour lifted some stacked roofing iron and found over 200 snake eggs in several lots , the general consensus around here is that we would rather put up with the frogs and mice

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#27 Post by hazard » Tue May 10, 2011 5:15 pm

Dave if you use Nevs Idea, you could use quick set and stack em up to make a retainer wall, but if the the snakes get stuck into it you could sell some really bewt walking sticks. Other than that yep ratsack or....burn the shed down!
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